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Forth51 is running under HyperTerminal in 64-bit Windows 7
using Belkin USB/Serial adapter HiDef video on Friday January 28,
2011
Thursday January 27, 2011 15:22
Forth51 hardware design.
Thinking Forth
by Leo
Brodie
comments
Basic52 manual in html posted.
Setup and hold
explanations.
http://www.prosefights.org/cs/c/thinkingforth/thinkingforth.htm
Wednesday
January 5, 2011 09:04
http://www.prosefights.org/cs/c/c.htm
Subject of
lecture is VM vs RM OSs. We must keep alert about other VM OSs.
Our VM
8051 family SCADA devices must be able to communicate with mobile devices as
well as Windows products.
The Asus announcement also confirms that
Honeycomb is Android 3.0 and not 2.4 as some had suspected. As Gingerbread is
Android 2.3 and H comes after G, Honeycomb had been thought by some to be 2.4
and not 3.0.
The Slider has a slide-out Qwerty keyboard, hence the
name, and has a Nvidia Tegra 2 chip, an Nvidia GPU and a 1.2MP front facing
camera plus a 5MP rear facing camera. Read more:
IMS Research predicts
that tablet computers based on Google’s Android operating system will make
up 15 percent of the worldwide market in 2011.
US security experts are reporting that a virus infecting mobile
phones using Google’s Android operating system has emerged in China.
DECEMBER 27, 2010.
This year saw the iPhone gain its first
worthy competitors. And nearly all of them are powered by Google's mobile
operating system, Android. While the first Android device was launched two
years ago, it wasn't until 2010 that Android hit its stride. Credit Google's
partnership with Verizon Wireless and two phone makers—Motorola and HTC
Corp. The collaboration produced a series of hit phones this year and saw
Android pass Apple in market share. That annoyed Steve Jobs
and ensured Google's profitable search engine will be a mainstay on mobile
devices.
December 22, 2010 06:00 AM
After
nearly a year of having the market pretty much to itself, Apple's iPad finally
has some serious competition.
The first Android-based tablets are starting to ship, and they
will soon be followed by a wide variety of portable devices, some of which
should give the iPad a run for its money.
Less than a week ago,
Google took the wraps off of its
Chrome OS, the search giant's take on the modern, lightweight
operating system. Along with it, Google launched a pilot program by sending
out specialized hardware loaded with Chrome OS.
Responses included
a good number of hoots and guffaws from readers inside and outside the industry
who said I was nuts to believe a company with $62 billion in revenue and a 90%
share of the PC operating system market could be faced with an existential
crisis in just the next half decade. One wag suggested my thinking was
"madness."
He was right. In light of new information, it seems I was
off the mark. So let me correct myself with the following:
Microsoft as we know it might not exist in two
years.
Comcast microcontroller hardware/software
problem is subject of our 8051 forth lectures.
http://home.comcast.net/~bpayne37/comcast/comcast.htm#tocomcast
So
is
http://home.comcast.net/~bpayne37/eprishumard/howard/howard.htm#currie
because
The World is facing large BTU shortage problem which translates into electrcity
at the rate of 3412.14163 BTU = 1 kWh.
http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/prccrd/schott/schott.htm#leer.
We are addressing low-power 8051 family SCADA apps.
We are
dissatisfied with AVI so Ultimate had on sale for $249.
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Down side of high definition [HD] camcorders is the file
size.
Below clip is over 229 MB in mts format. We're converting it to
wmv with Koyote free converter. .wmv is 170 MB!
Here's video/audio with
Camcorder of Dallas 89C430 running using HyperTerminal on windows 2000
machine.
And it doesn't work yet because of unsupported file
type.
We have to try to eliminate the bands. Camcorder has 50 and 60 Hz
flicker control. We will reshoot.
Bad
NEdit trip Tuesday December 14, 2010.
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Lecture 1
http://www.prosefights.org/cs/c/c.htm#start1
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- Project introduction 1- Friday December 10,
2010.
- Project introduction 2 - Sunday December 12,
2010.
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- Audio/Video
part 1. AVI takes time to load.
Audio/Video part 2. AVI takes time to load.
Here's
the set up
That's the Belkin USB/Serial
adapter next to the two Harbor Freight less than $1.99 multimeters.
The
multimeters were used to monitor DTR and CTS voltage with the null modem seen
hanging
with other wires to the right of the table.
The 8051 family
motherboard is seen to the right of the mouse.
Here's the Dallas
89C430.
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We tried to buy a battery for an old Toshiba
1000SE running DOS 3.3 to act as another terminal to our Forth51 machines. No
7.2 volt batteries available.
Battery store saleman phoned Jeraldo. We met
Jeraldo at a Blake's Lotta Burger at Osuna and Edith.
Jeraldo didn't
know of any easy inexpensive way to get a battery.
Jeraldo sold us an old Compaq laptop.
Forth86 worked on it from 3.5 DOS
diskette.
He asked $10-20 for it. We paid him $27
since he came to Blakes.
3.5 floppy diskette formated with XP Windows
Explorer.
Forth86/51 software used to test Windows
2000 copied on to it.
Then 3.5 DOS 3.3 diskette inserted into
Compaq. All worked.
Joseph Flores at Sandia Labs adapted, as
opposed to writing, a mini full screen editor code to run on the 8051.
We ROMed that editor.
The mini full screen editor is running on a
Forth51 machine using an ATMEL 89C55 part on Wednesday December 8, 2010!
Note that disk access works for the editor with the command 4 E on the
Compaq.
Audio/Video of mini full screen editor working on ATMEL 89C55
microcontoller - Thursday December 9, 2010 AVI LOADS SLOW.
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Sunday December 26, 2010 16:21
Lecture
2
http://www.prosefights.org/cs/c/c.htm#start2
- Why the 8051 family? 1- Thursday December 16,
09:02
Why the 8051 family? 2 - Friday December 17,
08:24
SCADA/Wireless conversaton with Ted Lewis.
Why the 8051 family? 3 - Saturday December
18, 12:45
Why the 8051 family? 4 - Saturday December
18, 13:19
Dallas 89C430 running on HyperTerminal under XP on Friday
December 17, 2010.
Video of Forth51 interactive, high-level definition, and
assembler running on a Dallas 89C430 microcontroller on Friday December 17,
2010.Fixed 15:45.
MV4th using a COG as a real time clock
example.
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- AT bus disk controller using 8749
microcontroller as hardware traffic cop.
- Sandia Labs weapons components department
manager
Dr M Kent Parsons ordered author to get familiar with the
8051. We were working with the 8085 on the Missile Secure Cryptographic Unit in
the early 1980s. Author was project leader.
1991 Intel 8-Bit
Embedded Controllers
- Nvidia USB2.0
Digital Video/Audio Device Controller.
- :-)
- The unofficial
history of 8051.
Intel employee told author that 8051 design was
traded to Intel for another design.
- Enhanced 8051 cores are now commonly used
which run at six, four, two, or even one clock per machine cycle, and have
clock frequencies of up to 100 MHz, and are thus capable of an even greater
number of instructions per second.
All SILabs,
some Dallas and a few Atmel devices have single cycle cores.
BS
Below taken from SILabs ToolStick
CD.
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- After lecture complete we put the Cygnal CD
in our reader.
We browsed the CD to find
When we
clicked www.cygnal.com we
got Silicon Labs.
Cygnal engineer Cormac Sookram and author went to
lunch twice with in Austin on Guadalupe St near U. Texas.
- Dr T G Lewis mentioned in Thursday December
16, 2010 lecture.
Received Thursday December 16, 2010.
Let's hope we
get through this lecture series alive. Albert Gore willing, of course.
Do not think
dishonestly
The Way is in training
Become acquainted with every art
Know the ways of all professions
Distinguish between gain and loss in
worldly matters
Develop intuitive judgment and understanding for everything
Perceive those things which cannot be seen
Pay attention even to
trifles
Do nothing which is of no use
Miyamoto Musashi
Lewis is a Musashi believer. And has a poster in their
home.
We know Lewis's three wives. Carol, Madelyn, and
Molly.
Lewis commented that he got married before puberty to #1.
Carol.
Currrent, Molly, and two former wives showed up at wedding of son
Todd.
Ted commented that experience was horrible.
- For the average design, the choice may simply
be a case of reusing the MCU the developer used last time, but for high-volume,
low-power applications, every memory cell, extra pin, redundant I/O port or MHz
of operation becomes critical. Hence the variety, and the resultant
commoditization of the descendents of
that most hallowed and venerable invention: the 8051
microcontroller architecture.
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Thursday December 30, 2010 08:05
Lecture
3
http://www.prosefights.org/cs/c/c.htm#start3
- Why Forth? 1 - Tuesday
December 21, 2010 10:36
Why Forth? 2 - Wednesday
December 22, 2010 10:02
Ms Elizabeth Rather's books study reveals that the
Forth used strayed from Fig standard Forth to some apparantly proprietary forth
dialect in places.
But bringing the examples in her books back into Fig
standard Forth compliance looks simple.
Why Forth? 3 - Thursday
December 23, 2010 10:46 Display for SCADA deivce is essential.
Forth contains number conversion and picture formatting routines [<#
# #S #> SIGN, HOLD, HLD, PAD] which makes writing messages to an LCD display
simple.
Super-reliable by observation.
Reasons: VM technology?
End of lecture.
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- I Hate Forth
Jack Ganssle
7/31/2001 10:26 AM EDT
Sure, it's fast. And fun. But let's get real: interactive development
has no impact on requirements analysis, specification, software design,
documentation, or even test. Fast tools make for fast debugging, nothing else.
Forth's interactive nature tends to obliterate documentation. Where do
those comments go when (if) you enter them? Down to the target, of course, into
the limited memory typical of resource-poor embedded systems. That's the nature
of interpreters. Worse, even the best people tend to get sucked into a
change/test frenzy using any interpreter (Forth, Basic, you name it).
Documentation slows us down when we really just want to try something, so is
inevitably neglected.
It is possible to have well documented Forth. But
that's very rare. I've looked at a lot of Forth code, and it's almost uniformly
doc-free. ...
[Right on? Maybe not.]
'Where do those comments go
when (if) you enter them? Down to the target, of course, into the limited
memory typical of resource-poor embedded systems.' shown to be false in
Wednesday December 29, 2010 Laxen editor lecture.
java virtual machine
C, C++ or Java?
Java Virtual Machine
Java for the 8051
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Sunday January 9, 2011 11:55
Lecture 4
- Which Forth? 1 - Thursday December 23, 2010
13:19.
- Forth83 standards committee eliminated state-smart
words.
Page 313 Embedded Controller Forth for the 8051
Family.
An improvement?
Which Forth? 2 - Friday December 24, 2010 09:20.
Multitasking Forth86 demo under Windows XP!
Which Forth? 3 - Friday December 24, 2010 12:23.
Multitasking Forth86 interprocess communications demo under Windows
XP!
Which Forth? 4 - Monday December 27, 2010
09:57.
Multitasking, file sharing, and ipconfig. Project success
prospects.
Book machine - Monday December 27, 2010
10:32.
8051 wire wrapped machine used to test book software.
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Mr Gary Fierbach formatted a clock display in
one line of forth by manipulating the base. We tried to reproduce this code of
Monday December 27, 2010. And, so far, failed.
But this effort causes
us to have to relearn the key code associated with the Laxen editor which runs
on FIG standard forth which runs on X86 machines.
The FIG standard
forth, source included in Embedded Controller Forth for the 851 Family, was
extended to include a four file system.
This Forth86 extension of FIG standard forth
has shown itself to be useful today in other applications than supporting the
Nautilus 2 metacompiler because instances of it running under Windows 2000, XP,
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Forth86 Laxen editor - Tuesday December 28, 2010
11:06.
Forth86 Laxen editor 2 - Wednesday December 29,
2010 09:14.
Open two instances of p.com, type 0 SYSE in both, then
display the first and second pages of help reached by F! for instance reference
to help.
Experimentation on Tuesday December 28, 2010 reveal that
they block commands don't appear to work. Or we are not using them correctly.
But the source code is published so a fix is possible.
Friday December
31, 2010 we are again reminded that we are working in the buggy C/assembler
implemented unreliable Windows nvironment.
Forth86 Laxen editor 3 - Friday December 31,
2010 15:18.
Line stack and other editor demonstrations. Technical MSM.
Speculative analysis of David Jaffe's behavior.
Forth86 Laxen editor 4 - Thursday January 6,
2010 09:45.
Correcting ^KB, ^KK, ^KC, ^KI, ^KY Laxen editor command
lecture.
Do we have a soul? Junko Yoshida EE Times December 13,
2010.
Embedded Market Forecasters.
Jerry Krasner page.
Line stack and other editor
demonstrations. Technical MSM. Speculative analysis of
David Jaffe's behavior.
The more we think about what
Jaffe was up to, the more concerned we become. Later forths, in our opinion,
offer no advantages over FIG standard forth and are likely poorly
documented.
Forth86 Laxen editor 5 - Friday January 7, 2010
08:51.
OfficeMax, multitasking, file sharing, business.
http://www.prosefights.org/cs/c/c.htm#start4
Kansas SCADA device ABB XFC6413
Kansas SCADA device antennas.
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- D. Compatibility
analysis of ANS Forth (informative annex).
- SwiftX™ 8051 for the 8051.
- Color Forth.
- Forth Interest Group [Fig]
standard Forth.
All SCADA 8051 standard Forth
families will properly process.
- Forth (programming language) From Wikipedia, the free
encyclopedia gives a good overview of the inane forth 'standardization'
efforts.
- Non-standard Forths subject to Musashi 's rules
analysis.
- Two things are infinite: the universe and
human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe.
Albert Einstein
Don't search for deeper explanations when stupidity will suffice.
Professor Melvin Gordon Davidson - physics
Stupidity is difficult
to underestimate.
Professor Robert Franklin Wallace - economics
- Fig Forth project and Ray Duncan, Laboratory
Microsystems.
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David L
Jaffe.
http://www.forth.org/fig-forth/contents.html
Here's David Jaffe's Wednesday December 29, 2010
friendly-sounding call.
We spoke with David Jaffe. He is an 'in' to
the silicon valley Forth community.
Jerry Boutelle helped us avoid the
silicon valley Forth community.
We
are thinking about conversation with Jaffe.
Carefully.
We
need a null
modem to attempt to communicate between a Windows 2000 and XP machine using
HyperTerminal.
Design for test in prototype work is a good
idea.
Whoops, in the middle of the night
thought that we did not add a ground test connection hit us. Ground test point
added while XP was booting Friday December 31, 2010.
New surface mount 8051 family board design is still under
consideration.
Second board containing one of more 8250s may be
advisable? We'll think about this.
Cables are in place to communicate
directly using serial port on Win 2K machine and Belkin USB/Serial
adapter.
We will be using C, C++, _asm, Visual Basic, Java, VBA, Java
script, ... . All tools which help us solve our problem. Including
Forth86.
Once this is working, we well tackle communations from a DOS or
Windows app to HyperTerminal on the XP machine.
David Jaffe phoned
Wednesday December 29, 2010.
HyperTerminal on the XP
machine.
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- Ray Duncan on
Converting FIG-Forth Programs to Forth-83.
We parted
company from Laboratory Microsystems about 1985 over lack of Forth-83
dcoumentation.
LMI FIG to Forth-83 conversion may have been a ploy to
get Ray out of the problem of having filched targets from FIG?
We
went with Jerry Boutelle, FIG forthians, and Mitch and Linda
Baker.
- C
(programming language)
- Windows 2000 Visual Studio C and Visual Basic
software development environment Monday December 27, 2010.
Instructor has gotten into above mode of software
development.
- One man’s treat, another man’s twaddle.
- No Time for ’Tirement’
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Wednesday January 5, 2011
09:08
Lecture 5
Downloads 1 - Monday January 3, 2012
10:55.
Downloads 2 - Tuesday January 4,
2012 10:25.
Downloads 3 - Wednesday January 5,
2012 09:05.
http://www.prosefights.org/cs/c/c.htm#start5
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- Embedded Controller Forth for the 8051 Family
file downloads
http://home.comcast.net/~bpayne37/51book1/51book1.htm
- Note possible debug information NEXT
displayed on LCD.
Information appears infrequently.
Timex Ironman
apparently is implemented with a 6805 microctroller. Software reported to be
implemented by Microsoft.
Forth would be a good candidate for such an
application.
Monday January 3, 2011.
Pressing the MODE button
removes the possible debug informaton.
- Digi-Key TechZone. tzcontent@digikey.com
- IEEE Software, October 1984, Volume 1 Number
4 page 100-102.
ROMable Forth applications code development
- Jack Ganssle approach to embedded
software.
C, C++ or Java?
- Forth51 system helping to debug null modem
communications between Win 2k and XP hyperterminal.
Forth51 system
responding with 'ok'.
2k system connected to Belkin over COM6.
Communications reported by HyperTerminal.
rs 232 9 pin disconnected from
Forth51 system, then connected to null modem. Keys depressed on HyperTerminal
running on 2k machine.
Null modem disconnected and
reconnected to Forth51 machine. Forth51 responds with 'ok'.
- Quick to listen, slow to talk, and slow to anger are good rules
to adopt in all your interpersonal relationships, but they also help when
solving tough technical problems, ...
rs232 breakout box.
- Tuesday December 3, 2011 14:44. Located cable
problem by 'buzzing-out' cables. One of the cables was a 'listen only' cable
with no transmit line. Connector stamp reads 'UPS'.
Here's XP
HyperTerminal send characters to 2K HyperTerminal.
All
okay.
Conclusion is that either 2k HyperTerminal is has a send problem
or XP HyperTerminal has a receive problem.
2k HyperTerminal transmitting
PC keys. 15:25.
Fixed.
- HandBrake or Divx may be solution to reducing size of HiDef camera
files?
- Imagine a stack of paper the height of a
19-story building. That's what a printout of Microsoft's Windows 2000 would
look like, if anyone cared to print it. With
29 million lines of code written mainly in the C++ computer
language, the new operating system (OS) is by far the largest commercial
software product ever built. In fact, the development of Windows 2000, and its
implementation in a wide range of computer systems and locations, is arguably
the most extreme feat of software engineering ever undertaken.
INSOMNIACS BEDTIME READING: If the code for Windows 2000, the
largest commercial program ever written, were printed, the resulting stack of
paper would reach past the Statue of Liberty's chin. In comparison, the
software for a typical major defense system would be 13 feet
shorter.
EVA FREEMAN, 2000
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Getiing
stiffed in the consulting business.
2. b. To fail to give or supply
(something expected or promised).
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Friday
January 14, 2011 13:09
Lecture 6
Hardware
considerations.
Eight of January 2011 lecture - Saturday January
8, 2010 14:15.
Belkin Powered USB Hub, RS-232 hardware
strategy.
Hardware strategy - Sunday January 9, 2010
15:51.
Hardware strategy.
Passive backplane implementation strategy -
Monday January 10, 2010 08:27.
Hardware implementation
strategy.
Belkin F5U409 - Thinking Forth - Tuesday January
11, 2010 09:27.
MCT driver, Windows XP Mode - Windows
VirtualPC.
Belkin F5U409 working on 64 bit Windows 7 -
Tuesday January 11, 2010 15:04.
Magic Control Technologies U232-P9
Adaptor It was then that I found the MCT U232-P9 DB-9 Serial Adapter High Speed
230K USB SERIAL RS-232.
This device used the “P87C52 – 80C51 8-bit
microcontroller and PDIUSBD12 made by NXP Semiconductors founded by
Philips.”
PDIUSBD12 made by NXP Semiconductors.
HyperTerminal/Forth86 file sharing - Wedneday
January 12, 2010 15:49.
Wirewrap technology and Forth assembler -
Thursday January 13, 2010 08:43.
Wirewrap technology and Forth assembler 2 -
Thursday January 13, 2010 10:39.
Logitech S 7500 720 webcam - Friday January 14,
2010 13:06.
Logitech C910 1080 webcam - Friday January 14,
2010 13:07.
Jameco T44 pins.
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- Why ExpressSCH/PCB? - Sunday
December 12, 2010.
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to 8051 family first!
