NAME, AGE, EDUCATIONAL BACKGROUND of judicial races candidates
VOTE ELECTION GUIDE 2004 Your guide to the candidates and ballot questions in the Nov.2 general election Albuquerque Journal Sunday October 17, 2004

First posted
Thursday January 20, 2005 08:10
Wednesday January 9, 2009 06:36

Look at the undergraduate degree majors of the lawyers.

Nearly all avoided mathematics, physics, chemistry, and engineering.

Maureen Dowd's article about Condoleezza Rice's educational background. Bio.

Secty of State: "We have to do something about the energy problem" by Condoleezza Rice

We do have to do something about the energy problem. I can tell you that nothing has really taken me aback more as secretary of State than the way that the politics of energy is -- I will use the word warping -- diplomacy around the world. It has given extraordinary power to some states that are using that power in not very good ways for the international system, states that would otherwise have very little power. It is sending some states that are growing very rapidly in an all-out search for energy -- states like China, states like India -- that is really sending them into parts of the world where they've not been seen before, and challenging, I think, for our diplomacy. It is, of course, an energy supply that is still heavily dependent on hydrocarbons, which makes more difficult our desire to have growth, environmental protection and reliable energy supply all in a package. ... on the energy side, we have simply got to do something about the warping now of diplomatic effort by the all-out rush for energy supply.

Condoleezza Rice apparently took mickey mouse liberal arts courses in college and failed to learn.

What are the Laws of Thermodynamics?

1st Law—Energy can be changed from one form to another, but it cannot be created or destroyed. The total amount of energy in the universe remains constant, merely changing from one form to another.

2nd Law—In all energy exchanges, if no energy enters or leaves the system, the potential energy of the state will always be less than that of the initial state. This is also known as the law of entropy.

3rd Law—It is impossible to cool a body to absolute zero by any finite process. This is actually more of a postulate than a law. In any case, it has little application to our discussion and is presented here merely for thoroughness.

We, of course, can all see where Saddam went wrong.
Education: University of Cairo, law degree 1962; Mustanseriya University in Baghdad, law degree 1971

In the 109th Congress there are 108 representatives with legal backgrounds. Lawyers don't solve problems; they exacerbate them. They're paid to turn small problems into expensive big ones that take years to resolve.

So part of the US judicial problems are rooted in inferior undergraduate education at substandard colleges and universities.

Laywers contribute absolutely zero to the GDP.

The nearest we've come to see justice in court is arraignment hearing in the courts of Metro judges Christina Jaramillo and Denise Barela Shepherd.

Note that lying assisant DA Pete Ross is running for District Attorney. See more about Ross.

Edward L. Chavez
AGE: 47
EDUCATION: B.B.A., Eastern New Mexico
University, 1978; J.D., University of New Mexico,
School of Law, 1981.

Ned S. Fuller
AGE: 39
EDUCATION: B A., English, Arizona State
University. 1989; J.D., Brigham Young
University Law School, 1993.

Michael E. Vigil
AGE: 53
EDUCATION: B.A., political science, College of
Santa Fe, 1973; J.D., Georgetown University Law
Center, 1976.

Paul D. Barber
AGE: 55
EDUCATION: B.A., economics, Brigham Young
University, 1973; J.D., Brigham Young
University, 1976.

Richard C. Bosson
AGE: 60
Wesleyan University, 1966,
J.D., Georgetown Law
School, 1969; master's
degree, judicial process, University of Virginia School of Law. 1998.

Marie A. Baca
AGE: 51
EDUCATION: B.A., university studies, University of
New Mexico, 1970; J.D. UNM, School of Law, 1980.

Roderick T Kennedy
AGE: 48
EDUCATION: B.A., political science, The College of
Wooster (Ohio), 1977; J.D.,
University of Toledo College
of Law, 1980; certificate in criminal trial advocacy,

Don Harris
AGE: 42
EDUCATION: B.M., Hartt School of Music, University of Hartford,
1987; J.D., cum laude, University of Connecticut, 1990.

Linda Vanzi
AGE: 47
Marymount College,
1973; No degree (enrolled in M.A.
in biology), University of Texas at El
Paso, 1984-1986; J.D., University
of New Mexico, School of Law,

Chris Schultz
AGE: 43
religion, Baylor Schultz
University, 1983;
J.D., University of New Mexico,
School of Law, 1994.

John J. Romero Jr.
AGE: 57
American studies, University
of New Mexico, 1970; M.A.,
public administration, UNM,
1977; J.D., UNM, 1985.

Valerie Huling
AGE: 46
EDUCATION: B.S., business
administration, Xavier
University of New Orleans
1980; juris doctorate,
University of New Mexico,
1985; attended National
Judicial College, October

Kevin L. Fitzwater
AGE: 46
EDUCATION: B.A., history,
University of New Mexico,
1981; MBA, National
University, 1986; J.D., UNM, 1992.

Nan Nash
AGE: 47
EDUCATION: B.5., environmental biology
Indiana University, 1985;
ID., Indiana University,1989.

George Eichwald
AGE: 51
University of New Mexico,
School of Law, 1984; master's, public administration,
UNM, 1978; B.S., biology, UNM, 1975.

Kerry Morris
AGE: 52
EDUCATION: B.A, universities studies,
University of New Mexico,
1977; J.D., UNM, School of Law, 1981.

Stanley Read
AGE: 63
EDUCATION: B.A., biology,
Texas Christian University,
1963; M.A., English, University of Texas, Austin,
1965; J.D., University of New Mexico,
School of Law, 1975.

Patsy D. Reinard
AGE: 56
EDUCATION: B.A, economics, University of Minnesota, 1974;
J.D., University of Minnesota, 1977.

Clint Wellborn
AGE: 42
EDUCATION: High school diploma, Quemado, 1980;
B.S., history, Eastern New Mexico University, ±985; J.D,
Texas Tech University, 1989.

Lemuel Martinez
AGE: 48
EDUCATION: B.S., business administration, University of
Southern California, Los Angeles, 1978; M.A., liberal
education, St. John's College, Annapolis, Md., 1982; M.A., education,
University of New Mexico, 1989; J.D., UNM School of Law, 1995.

Victor E. Valdez
AGE: 40
EDUCATION: B.A., economics, Stanford
University, 1986; J.D., Valdez
University of New Mexico, School of Law, 1989.

Pete Ross
AGE: 52
EDUCATION: A.A., University of New Mexico, Gallup branch, 1985;
B.U.S., UNM, 1989; J.D., UNM, School of Law, 1992.

Ronald Bratton
AGE: 46
EDUCATION: B.A, unversity studies,
University of New Mexico, 1985; M.A.,
education, UNM, 1990; J.D., UNM, School of Law, 1994.

Edward L. Benavidez
AGE: 42
EDUCATION: BA., government, New Mexico State
University, 1985; J.D., Thomas Cooley Law School,
Lansing, Mich, 1990.

Cristina Jaramillo
AGE: 43
EDUCATION: B.A., law and politics, University of New
Mexico, 1985; J.D., UNM, School of Law, 1990; MBA,
UNM, Anderson School of Management, 1990.

Loretta Lopez
AGE: 43
EDUCATION: B.S., nursing,
University of New Mexico, 1982;
J.D., UNM, School of Law, 1989.

Daniel Ramczyk
AGE: 46
EDUCATION: B.A., speech communications, University of New Mexico, 1980; J.D., UNM, School Law, 1983.

Clyde DeMersseman
AGE: 37
EDUCATION: B.A., political science, University of Colorado,
1989; J.D., University of
Denver, 1994.

Linda Mott
AGE: 42
EDUCATION: B.A., journalism
and political science, University of
New Mexico, 1991; J.D., Drake
Law School, 1996.

Wednesday January 9, 2009 06:36

High school classmate who has a law degree forwarded on January 6, 2009.

A very successful lawyer parked his brand new Porsche Carrera GT in front of the office, ready to show it off to his colleagues. As he got out, a truck came along too close to the curb and completely tore off the driver's door.

Fortunately, a cop in a police car was close enough to see the accident and pulled up behind the Porsche, his lights flashing. But, before the cop had a chance to ask any questions, the lawyer started screaming hysterically about how his Porsche, which he had just picked up the day before, was now completely ruined and would never be the same, no matter how hard the body shop tries to make it new again.

After the lawyer finally wound down from his rant, the cop shook his head in disgust and disbelief. "I can't believe how materialistic you lawyers are," he said. "You are so focused on your possessions that you neglect the most important things in life."

"How can you say such a thing?" asked the lawyer.

The cop replied, "Don't you even realize that your left arm is missing? It got ripped off when the truck hit you!!!"

"OH, MY GOD!" screamed the lawyer.


Not All Lawyers Are Laughing at the Jokes

Albuquerque Journal, Business Outlook, Week of October 11, 1993

St. Peter and the devil were arguing about a fence the devil had built between
heaven and hell. "So sue me If you don't like It," the devil said.
"How can I?" retorted St. Peter. "You've got all the lawyers."

Q What's the difference between a lawyer and a leech?
A A leech lets go when after the person dies.

Q Why don't sharks eat lawyers?
A Professional courtesy.

Q Why does Carlsbad, New Mexico have all the nuclear waste and Albuquerque all the lawyers?
A Carlsbad chose first.

Q Why are they now using lawyers instead of laboratory rats for experimentation?
A First, there are more of them;
Second, there is no danger that the experimenter will get to like them; and
Third, there are certain things even rats won't do.

Q What's the difference between a dead dog in the road and a dead lawyer?
A There are skid marks in front of the dog.

Q What do lawyers use for birth control?
A Their personalities.

Q What's brown and black and looks good on a lawyer?
A A doberman pincher.

Q What do lawyers and a sperm have in common?
A Both have a one-in-a-million change of becoming human.

Q How do you save a lawyer from drowning?
A You take your foot off their head.

Q What's the difference between a lawyer and a carp?
A One is a slimy, bottom-feeding, mud-sucking scavenger.
The other is a fish.

Q Why don't they make a lawyer stamp?
A People wouldn't know which side to spit on.

99 percent of lawyers give the remainder a bad name.

Senior citizen bird hunting buddy, and retired insurance adjuster, emails.

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 5:22 PM
Subject: (no subject)
A father walks into a book store with his young son.

The boy is holding a quarter.

Suddenly, the boy starts choking, going blue in the face.

The father realizes the boy has swallowed the quarter and starts panicking, shouting for help.

A well dressed, attractive and serious looking woman, in a blue business suit is sitting at a coffee bar reading a newspaper and sipping a cup of coffee.

At the sound of the commotion, she looks up, puts her coffee cup down, neatly folds the newspaper and places it on the counter, gets up from her seat and makes her way, unhurried, across the book store.

Reaching the boy, the woman carefully drops his pants; takes hold of the boy's testicles and starts to squeeze and twist, gently at first and then ever so firmly.

After a few seconds the boy convulses violently and coughs up the quarter, which the woman deftly catches in her free hand.

Releasing the boy's testicles, the woman hands the coin to the father and walks back to her seat in the coffee bar without saying a word.

As soon as he is sure that his son has suffered no ill effects, the father rushes over to the woman and starts thanking her saying, "I've never seen anybody do anything like that before, it was fantastic. Are you a doctor?"

"No," the woman replied. "Divorce Attorney."

A Mafia Godfather finds out that his bookkeeper has screwed him for ten million bucks. This bookkeeper happens to be deaf, so the Godfather brings along his attorney, who knows sign language.

The Godfather asks the bookkeeper: "Where is the 10 million bucks you embezzled from me?" The attorney, using sign language, asks the bookkeeper where the 10 million dollars is hidden. The bookkeeper signs back: "I don't know what you are talking about." The attorney tells the Godfather: "He says he doesn't know what you're talking about."

Just then, the Godfather pulls out a 9 mm pistol, puts it to the bookkeeper's temple, cocks it and says: "Ask him again!" The attorney signs to the bookkeeper: "He'll kill you for sure if you don't tell him!" The bookkeeper signs back: "OK! You win! The money is in a brown briefcase, buried behind the shed in my cousin Enzo's backyard in Queens!"

The Godfather asks the attorney: "Well, what'd he say?"

The attorney replies: "He says you don't have the balls to pull the trigger!"

An honest politician, a kind lawyer and Santa Claus were walking down the street and saw a $20 bill.

Which one picked it up??


The other two don't exist!

Pair arrested for telling lawyer jokes

"How do you tell when a lawyer is lying?" Harvey Kash reportedly asked Carl Lanzisera.

"His lips are moving," they said in unison.

The below email focuses on what they did to us.

Larry Everest focuses on what we did to them.

----- Original Message -----
From: ?
To: ?
Sent: Tuesday, January 18, 2005 4:35 PM
Subject: (no subject)

> Please pause a moment, reflect back, and take the following multiple choice
> test.
> The events are actual cuts from past history. They actually happened!!!
> Do you remember?
> 1. 1968 Bobby Kennedy was shot and killed by
> a. Superman
> b. Jay Lenno
> c. Harry Potter
> d. Muslim male extremist between the ages of 17 and 40
> 2. In 1972 at the Munich Olympics, athletes were kidnapped and massacred by
> a. Olga Corbett
> b. Sitting Bull
> c. Arnold Schwarzenegger
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
> 3. In 1979, the US embassy in Iran was taken over by:
> a. Lost Norwegians
> b. Elvis
> c. A tour bus full of 80-year-old women
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
> 4. During the 1980's a number of Americans were kidnapped in Lebanon by:
> a. John Dillinger
> b. The King of Sweden
> c. The Boy Scouts
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
> 5. In 1983, the US Marine barracks in Beirut was blown up by:
> a. A pizza delivery boy
> b. Pee Wee Herman
> c. Geraldo Rivera
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
> 6. In 1985 the cruise ship Achille Lauro was hijacked and a 70 year old
> American passenger was murdered and thrown overboard in his wheelchair.
> a. The Smurfs
> b. Davy Jones
> c. The Little Mermaid
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
> 7. In 1985 TWA flight 847 was hijacked at Athens, and a US Navy diver trying
> to rescue passengers was murdered by:
> a. Captain Kidd
> b. Charles Lindberg
> c. Mother Teresa
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
> 8. In 1988, Pan Am Flight 103 was bombed by:
> a. Scooby Doo
> b. The Tooth Fairy
> c. Butch Cassidy and The Sundance Kid
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
> 9. In 1993 the World Trade Center was bombed the first time by:
> a. Richard Simmons
> b. Grandma Moses
> c. Michael Jordan
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
> 10. In 1998, the US embassies in Kenya and Tanzania were bombed by:
> a. Mr. Rogers
> b. Hillary Clinton, to distract attention from Wild Bill' s women
> problems
> c. The World Wrestling Federation
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
> 11. On 9/11/01, four airliners were hijacked; two were used as missiles to
> take out the World Trade Centers and of the remaining two, one crashed into
> the US Pentagon and the other was diverted and crashed by the
> passengers.Thousands of people were killed by:
> a. Bugs Bunny, Wile E. Coyote, Daffy Duck and Elmer Fudd
> b. The Supreme Court of Florida
> c. Mr. Bean
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
> 12. In 2002 the United States fought a war in Afghanistan against:
> a. Enron
> b. The Lutheran Church
> c. The NFL
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
> 13. In 2002 reporter Daniel Pearl was kidnapped and murdered by:
> a. Bonnie and Clyde
> b. Captain Kangaroo
> c. Billy Graham
> d. Muslim male extremists mostly between the ages of 17 and 40
> Nope, .....I really don't see a pattern here to justify profiling, do you?
> So, to ensure we Americans never offend anyone, particularly fanatics intent
> on killing us, airport security screeners will no longer be allowed to
> profile certain people. They must conduct random searches of 80-year-old women,
> little kids, airline pilots with proper identification, secret agents who are
> members of the President's security detail, 85-year old Congressmen with metal
> hips, and Medal of Honor winning and former Governor Joe Foss, but leave
> Muslim Males between the ages 17 and 40 alone because of profiling.
> Let's send this to as many people as we can so that the Gloria Aldreds and
> other dunder-headed attorneys along with Federal Justices that want to thwart
> common sense, feel doubly ashamed of themselves - if they have any such sense.
> As the writer of the award winning story "Forrest Gump" so aptly put it,
> "Stupid is as stupid does."

Subject: VACCINE

How the vaccine works:

Influenza vaccine is produced by growing the virus in eggs. The virus is killed and processed to create the vaccine, which is given by injection under the skin. The body then produces antibodies to the virus over the next two to four weeks. If the immunized person then comes into contact with the influenza virus, the antibodies attack and kill the virus before it has a chance to cause infection. The vaccine contains the 3 most likely strains to be active during the "flu season"

Why the shortage:

Almost half of the nation's flu vaccine will not be delivered this year. Chiron, a major manufacturer of flu vaccine, will not be distributing any influenza vaccine this flu season. Chiron was to make 46-48 million doses vaccine for the United States. Chiron is a British company. Recently British health officials stopped Chiron from distributing and making the vaccine when inspectors found unsanitary conditions in the labs. Some lots of the vaccine were recalled and destroyed.

Why is our vaccine made in the UK and not the US?

The major pharmaceutical companies in the US provided almost 90% of the nations flu vaccine at one time. They did this despite a very low profit margin for the product. Basically, they were doing us a favor. In the late 80's a man from North Carolina who had received the vaccine got the flu. The strain he caught was one of the strains in that years vaccine made by a US company. What did he do? He sued and he won. He was awarded almost $5 million! After that case was appealed and lost, most US pharmaceutical companies stopped making the vaccine. The liability out weighed the profit margin. Since UK and Canadian laws prohibit such frivolous law suits UK and Canadian companies began selling the vaccine in the US.

By the way...the lawyer that represented the man in the flu shot law suit was a young ambulance chaser by the name of John Edwards.


by Bill Bonner

One of the wonders of modern politics is this frequently posed question: how is it possible that in a nation of 293,845,317 people, the best we can do for an election is a contest between George W. Bush and John Kerry?

Among the multitudes of able-bodied, native-born citizens there must be many thousands of reasonable intelligence and standard morals.

Some must even be above average in both qualities.

And a few are surely exceptional.

Even if you exclude the lawyers and career politicians as unfit on moral grounds you still have millions to choose from.

This, after all, is a country led by a born-again Christian, President George W. Bush, who believes he is an instrument of God and characterizes international relations as a biblical clash between forces of good and evil. The highest law officer in the land, Attorney General John Ashcroft, is a dyed-in-the-wool follower of a fundamentalist Christian sect-the Pentecostal Assemblies of God-who begins each day at the Justice Department with a devotional prayer meeting for his staff, perodically has himself anointed with sacred oil, and subscribes to a vividly apocalyptic worldview that has much in common with key millenarian beliefs held by the Lafferty brothers and the residents of Colorado City. The president, the attorney general, and other national leaders frequently implore the American people to have faith in the power of prayer, and to trust in God's will. Which is precisely what they were doing, say both Dan and Ron Lafferty, when so much blood was spilled in American Fork on July 24, 1984.

Jon Krakauer
Under the Banner of Heaven

Ashcroft is, not to mince words, a lunatic. This would have been universally recognized at almost any other moment in American history. In the looking-glass world of "the war on terror," however, Ashcroft's religious manias haven't excited even mild censure from anyone in government. By all reports, Ashcroft runs the Department of Justice like a Pentecostal revival meeting, enjoining his staff to raise their voices in righteous hymns of his own composition.

News Release: Teacher Arrested!

At New York's Kennedy airport today, an individual later discovered to be a public school teacher was arrested trying to board a flight while in possession of a ruler, a protractor, a set square, a slide rule, and a calculator. At a morning press conference, Attorney general John Ashcroft said he believes the man is a member of the notorious al-gebra movement. He is being charged by the FBI with carrying weapons of math instruction. "Al-gebra is a fearsome cult," Ashcroft said. "They desire average solutions by means and extremes, and sometimes go off on tangents in a search of absolute value. They use secret code names like 'x'and 'y' and refer to themselves as 'unknowns', but we have determined they belong to a common denominator of the axis of medieval with coordinates in every country. As the Greek philanderer Isosceles used to say, 'there are 3 sides to every triangle'." When asked to comment on the arrest, President Bush said, "If God had wanted us to have better weapons of math instruction, He would have given us more fingers and toes."

Thanks to the monetary policies of the Federal Reserve and the fiscal policies of the government we are now facing an accumulated federal debt of $7.429 Trillion dollars, an increase of $1.755 trillion or 31% over the past four years.

Lack of vigilance and control of the weaponeers played a large part in bankrupting the economies of not just one superpower but two. We have entered the second nuclear age, one of burgeoning radioactive waste with no safe burial ground, one of proliferation and terrorism. Now anyone, anywhere, can build and detonate a nuclear bomb. Deadened by fifty years of nuclearism, we may have mutated into a nation of "good Germans" unwilling to see.

A war with Iraq would heighten security concerns and probably trigger more spending on protection on home. That would be additional money for guards, security devices and procedures that might otherwise be invested in production-boosting technology and workers who generate salable goods and services. `

"It's a dead-weight loss as far as the economy is concerned,'' said Vernon Smith, a George Mason University professor who won the 2002 Nobel Prize in economics.

"We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah," bin Laden said in the transcript.

Lawyers are also helping to bankrupt the U.S. by stealing your taxpayer money.

And your pension fund money!

Lawyers are like security: they contribute nothing to the GDP.

Bin Laden: Goal is to bankrupt U.S.

(CNN) -- The Arabic-language network Al-Jazeera released a full transcript Monday of the most recent videotape from Osama bin Laden in which the head of al Qaeda said his group's goal is to force America into bankruptcy.

Al-Jazeera aired portions of the videotape Friday but released the full transcript of the entire tape on its Web site Monday.

"We are continuing this policy in bleeding America to the point of bankruptcy. Allah willing, and nothing is too great for Allah," bin Laden said in the transcript.

He said the mujahedeen fighters did the same thing to the Soviet Union in Afghanistan in the 1980s, "using guerrilla warfare and the war of attrition to fight tyrannical superpowers."

"We, alongside the mujahedeen, bled Russia for 10 years until it went bankrupt and was forced to withdraw in defeat," bin Laden said.

He also said al Qaeda has found it "easy for us to provoke and bait this administration."

"All that we have to do is to send two mujahedeen to the furthest point east to raise a piece of cloth on which is written al Qaeda, in order to make generals race there to cause America to suffer human, economic and political losses without their achieving anything of note other than some benefits for their private corporations," bin Laden said.

Al-Jazeera executives said they decided to post the entire speech because rumors were circulating that the network omitted parts that "had direct threats toward specific states, which was totally untrue."

"We chose the most newsworthy parts of the address and aired them. The rest was used in lower thirds in graphics format," said one official.

U.S. intelligence officials Monday confirmed that the transcript made public Monday by Al-Jazeera was a complete one.

As part of the "bleed-until-bankruptcy plan," bin Laden cited a British estimate that it cost al Qaeda about $500,000 to carry out the attacks of September 11, 2001, an amount that he said paled in comparison with the costs incurred by the United States.

"Every dollar of al Qaeda defeated a million dollars, by the permission of Allah, besides the loss of a huge number of jobs," he said. "As for the economic deficit, it has reached record astronomical numbers estimated to total more than a trillion dollars.

The total U.S. national debt is more than $7 trillion. The U.S. federal deficit was $413 billion in 2004, according to the Treasury Department.

"It is true that this shows that al Qaeda has gained, but on the other hand it shows that the Bush administration has also gained, something that anyone who looks at the size of the contracts acquired by the shady Bush administration-linked mega-corporations, like Halliburton and its kind, will be convinced.

"And it all shows that the real loser is you," he said. "It is the American people and their economy."

As for President Bush's Iraq policy, Bin Laden said, "the darkness of black gold blurred his vision and insight, and he gave priority to private interests over the public interests of America.

"So the war went ahead, the death toll rose, the American economy bled, and Bush became embroiled in the swamps of Iraq that threaten his future," bin Laden said.

U.S. government officials said Friday that the tape appeared to be authentic and recently made. It was the first videotaped message from the al Qaeda leader in nearly three years.

Bin Laden Taunts U.S. Over Growing Deficit

Terrorist boasts he bankrupted USSR and can do the same to America

The Associated Press

Osama bin Laden claims to have bled the Soviet Union into bankruptcy as an Islamic guerrilla fighter in Afghanistan in the 1980s. Could he do the same to another hated superpower - the United States?

The al-Qaida leader's latest purported communication drove home the point by calling on militants to stop the flow of oil to the West and praising a Dec. 6 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Saudi Arabia, the world's top oil producer.

In an audiotape posted on an Islamic Web site Thursday, a man who U.S. officials believe was bin Laden accused Westerners of subjugating the Middle East to plunder its oil.

"Go on and try to prevent them from getting oil," the speaker said. "Concentrate your operations on that, especially in Iraq and the Gulf."

It was believed to be the first time a purported bin Laden tape in effect called for attacks on the oil industry. But he has flaunted the economic theme before, recalling in his most recent video how Afghan mujahedeen "bled Russia for 10 years, until it went bankrupt" and taunting the U.S. government over the size of its budget deficit - which peaked at $413billion last year. Security and terrorism experts suggest bin Laden's claims to be undermining the United States economically are largely propaganda, noting the flexible, market-driven U.S. economy is a far cry from the creaky, bureaucratic Soviet giant that disintegrated in 1991.

Still, the economic argument gives bin Laden a tool he can use to rally his supporters and inflate his aura of success by claiming damage caused by other factors as his own handiwork.

Spurred by the new audiotape, Muslim radicals using chat rooms on Islamic Web sites debated Friday what weapons could be used to attack an oil tanker in the strait of Hormuz in the Gulf.

Bin Laden "sees us as poised on this precipice, and he's going to push us into the abyss," said Bruce Hoffman, a terrorism expert at Rand Corporation.

As Bin Laden put It in his video aimed at Americans just days before the Nov. 2 presidential election: "The real loser is you It is the American people and their economy.'?

Albuquerque Journal Sunday December 19, 2004

What are the vital facts about Osama bin Laden?
Born: July 30, 1957

Saddam Hussein and Payne are 20 years older than bin Laden.

We, of course, continue to deny that we are having too much fun. Perhaps megatons of fun?

Don't make lite of our visibility links.

Buehler told Payne on the phone, "Bill! THEY have nukes!"

If you don't believe what Payne says, then phone Buehler and ask him.

So may understand our advice. Keep upwind.

We know the entire system is crooked. Now you can see the details.

Q What are the crooks stealing?

The crooks include Sandia and Los Alamos National labs. What do the crooks at the National labs do? Little or nothing. They collect big salaries, then retire.

A Federal funds.

Q Where are the feds getting these funds?

A They are borrowing them.

Q Who is going to have to pay borrowed money back?

A The taxpayer.

Payne talked to reporter Larry Spohn of the Albuquerque Tribune for 22 minutes this afternoon.

Spohn said that the Trib is endorsing Kerry/Edwards.

Spohn commented, "Name one good thing that has happened under the Bush administration." Iraq? jobs? the economy? health care? federal deficit? energy?

They haven't settled with Morales and Payne yet too.