First posted
Friday August 28, 2009 07:57
Updated
Thursday November 12, 2009 10:44


Tuesday September 22, 2009 15:39

Sep 09/14/09 10:49 AM email read Tuesday September 22, 2009.

Not signed, is it.

Appears not to address issues.

Title 12 Chapter 14, Subchapter II, § 1781. Insurance of member accounts (4) to provide protection and indemnity against burglary, defalcation, and other similar insurable losses, of the type, in the form, and in an amount at least equal to that required by the laws under which the credit union is organized and operates;
Ignore the facts and slam the door appears to continue to be the NCUA strategy.

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/ncualove/walters.htm#director3









----- Forwarded Message -----
From: "_Region 5 DOS Mail" R5DOSMAIL@NCUA.GOV
To: bpayne37@comcast.net
Sent: Monday, September 14, 2009 10:49:50 AM GMT -07:00 US/Canada Mountain
Subject: Reply: We have not yet received our two checks from NCUSIF for $11,018.00 for our prima facie fraud loss claim submitted to NCUA on Friday August 28, 2009.

Mr. Payne:

Please refer to letters from the National Credit Union Administration dated November 10, 2008, November 13, 2008, and November 24, 2008. These letters address your complaint and your fraud loss claim. As explained to you previously, NCUA does not insure against fraud loss. The NCUA is the independent federal agency that charters and supervises federal credit unions. In addition, we provide insurance on deposits in federally insured credit unions in the event of a credit union failure; however, we do not provide the type of insurance you state in your email. You cannot file a “fraud loss” claim with us.

If you believe you have cause for action against the credit union, you will need to pursue the matter in a court of law. The NCUA considers this complaint closed and will no longer respond to your requests.

Sincerely,

Jane A. Walters

Acting Regional Director


Friday September 11, 2009 09:42

Email delivery

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/ncualove/walters.htm#director2

Ms Jane Walters
Regional Director, Region 5
National Credit Union Administration
1230 West Washington Street, Suite 301
Tempe, AZ 85281
Office (602) 302-6000
Fax (602) 302- 6024
E-mail: region5@ncua.gov

Dear Ms Walters:

We have not yet received our two checks from NCUSIF for $11,018.00 for our prima facie fraud loss claim submitted to NCUA on Friday August 28, 2009.

Logic supports our claim with addition of Rule 79. Books and Records Kept by the Clerk and Entries Therein

(a) Civil Docket. The clerk shall keep a book known as “civil docket” of such form and style as may be prescribed by the Director of the Administrative Office of the United States Courts with the approval of the Judicial Conference of the United States, and shall enter therein each civil action to which these rules are made applicable. Actions shall be assigned consecutive file numbers. The file number of each action shall be noted on the folio of the docket whereon the first entry of the action is made. All papers filed with the clerk, all process issued and returns made thereon, all appearances, orders, verdicts, and judgments shall be entered chronologically in the civil docket on the folio assigned to the action and shall be marked with its file number. These entries shall be brief but shall show the nature of each paper filed or writ issued and the substance of each order or judgment of the court and of the returns showing execution of process. The entry of an order or judgment shall show the date the entry is made. When in an action trial by jury has been properly demanded or ordered the clerk shall enter the word “jury” on the folio assigned to that action.

Rule 79 is TRUE.

We requested in the fraud loss claim submitted to NCUA on Friday August 28, 2009
We ask that you print

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/ncualove/facts.htm#facts2

and

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/ncualove/facts.htm#facts

then complete the finding of facts in Failure of NCUA to pay claim and Improper Investigation of fraud loss claim and FACTS in NCUA fraud loss claim and return a copy of your notarized responses for our records.

All of the statement of facts are TRUE.

Statements of facts are logic PREMISES.

True premises in FACTS in NCUA fraud loss claim
2. Court document below is not FILED stamp by court of clerk.

and
5 Sandia Laboratory Federal Credit Union lawyer attempts to justify theft of Morales and Payne monies with bogus [not FILED stamp by clerk of court] court order.

combined with the true premise Rule 79. Books and Records Kept by the Clerk and Entries Therein means that our NOT receiving our checks from NCUSIF is illogicial for the reason that no valid argument can have true premises and a false conclusion.

When an argument has true premises and a false conclusion, it must be invalid. In fact, this is how we define invalidity.

Our money was stolen using a worthless document seen both at 2 and 5 in in FACTS in NCUA fraud loss claim.

Therefore, we ask that you see to it that NCUSIF sends us our two fraud loss checks for logic reasons by Wednesday September 16, 2009.

These unfortunate matters are too visible for NCUA and others to try to ignore.

Sincerely,


William H. Payne
13015 Calle de Sandias NE
Albuquerque, NM 87111
505-463-1020 cell
bpayne37@comcast.net

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Friday September 11, 2009 09:59



Friday August 28, 2009 10:55

Certified return receipt requested and email.

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/ncualove/walters.htm#director

Ms Jane Walters
Regional Director, Region 5
National Credit Union Administration
1230 West Washington Street, Suite 301
Tempe, AZ 85281
Office (602) 302-6000
Fax (602) 302- 6024
E-mail: region5@ncua.gov

Dear Ms Walters:

Purposes of this email/letter are to:

1 Report improper processing of a fraud loss claim made under previous NCUA Region 5 management by Ms Kelly Lay.

2 Request that NCUA pays insurance claims of $11,018.00 to
Arthur R Morales
1400 Camino Amparo NW
Albuquerque NM 87107
505-615-7831 cell
amorales58@comcast.net

William H. Payne
13015 Calle de Sandias NE
Albuquerque, NM 87111
505-463-1020 cell
bpayne37@comcast.net
for money stolen from their Sandia Laboratory Federal Credit Union retirement-protected savings account using a bogus court document which did not contain FILED stamp of clerk.

Our stolen $22,036.00 is apparently covered by NCUA under Title 12 Chapter 14, Subchapter II, § 1781.

We ask that NCUSIF make the payment within the same period of time as
NCUSIF will make any necessary payouts to the credit union’s members. These payouts are usually done within 3 days from the time the credit union closes its doors.
We ask that you print

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/ncualove/facts.htm#facts2

and

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/ncualove/facts.htm#facts

then complete the finding of facts in Failure of NCUA to pay claim and Improper Investigation of fraud loss claim and FACTS in NCUA fraud loss claim and return a copy of your notarized responses for our records.

We believe that NCUA employees Ms. Lay, Ms Dixon, and David at the NCUA Fraud hotline [1-800-827-9650] are involved in serious misconduct by telling us our stolen monies are not covered by NCUSIF.

Insurance Failure to Pay Law & Legal Definition.

You can listen to David [30 Mb] here.

Both David's and Ms Dixon's
http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/unsigned/melindalove.mp3
http://home.comcast.net/~bpayne37/hearing/ncua/david.mp3

conversations can be saved to disk for NCUA records.

We understand that this theft is a New Mexico felony crime

30-16-6. Fraud. Fraud consists of the intentional misappropriation or taking of anything of value which belongs to another by means of fraudulent conduct, practices or representations.

Whoever commits fraud when the value of the property misappropriated or taken exceeds twenty thousand dollars ($20,000) is guilty of a second degree felony
.

31-18-15. Sentencing authority; noncapital felonies; basic sentences and fines; parole authority; meritorious deductions. ...

(5) for a second degree felony, nine years imprisonment;

so we will cooperate in any requested way to help NCUSIF recover its money.

Sincerely,


William H. Payne
13015 Calle de Sandias NE
Albuquerque, NM 87111
505-463-1020 cell
bpayne37@comcast.net

distribution

boardmail@ncua.gov
oedmail@ncua.gov
oigmail@ncua.gov
iemail@ncua.gov
anthonybrobinson@comcast.net
bridges@whitman.edu
mayor@cabq.gov
jhamman@cabq.gov
rshultz@cabq.gov
bill.leonard@nara.gov
foialo@nsa.gov
julia.eichhorst@ic.fbi.gov
the.secretary@hq.doe.gov
alexander.morris@hq.doe.gov
jim.kovakas@usdoj.gov
tanya.kubinec@wpafb.af.mil
Amorales58@Comcast.Net

Tuesday September 8, 2009 06:47




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