A liberal arts college
The class of 1959
Friday February 3, 2006 17:29
Wednesday June 4, 2008 07:52
Reason for this page is to try to analyze educational causes for some of the problems in the US legal, media, bureaucratic systems from senior citizen liberal arts undergraduate degree holder perspective.
Payne entered Whitman college in the fall of 1956 after graduation from Shattuck school.
Payne's major interest at San Mateo High School was cars, not studying.
Payne is back to cars again.
So parents sent Payne to Shattuck for shaping-up.
At San Mateo high Payne recalls he took one math and one chemistry course. Science was not emphasized.
At Shattuck Payne took one chemistry, one math and one physic course. Science was a bit more emphasized at Shattuck.
At Whitman college in 1956 Payne took chemistry and physics courses.
had enough math, but not math requiring knowledge of calculus, to indicate that lack of math knowledge was going to cause problems later.
Physics first semester professor Dr Newton Gray was too tough for most of the liberal arts students. So students ran him off to Boeing. Second semester professor Mr Bennett was a nice guy.
Payne did okay, if not well, in both but realized his math skills were inadequate.
College buddy and fellow student majoring in physics Mel Davidson had good math skill learned at Kirkland, WA high school.
Liberal arts at Whitman meant that students had to take required courses in lots of different areas: history, English, foreign languages, chemistry, physics, psychology, sociology ... in order to be graduated.
Decision was made to get out of college as fast as possible. So in the summer of 1957 Payne attended summer school at the University of Colorado to take two Spanish courses [to satisfy foreign language graduation] requirement and one psychology course.
One Spanish prof was Mr Fine, a radio announcer, from Cuba.
Fine looked exactly like Fidel Castro with the exception he was about 5'1" tall.
The second Spanish teacher was a graduate student from Spain who was still sensitive about Spain losing the Spanish American war.
Noting how better prepared Davidson was for science courses, Payne decided to take a math course in the fall of 1957.
|Senior citizen Mr Northcutt
Tuesday January 8, 2008
----- Original Message -----
From: Griffin, Christopher B. (Portland)
Sent: Tuesday, January 08, 2008 8:59 AM
Subject: RE: chris griffin
Bill, who are you, and where did you get this?
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Davidson helped Payne get the idea of what was going on in this math class.
Math really isn't too hard once you get the idea [understanding] what's going on [the basic idea].
So in the summer of 1958 Payne returned CU to take
in CU's engineering school and
Calculus was no problem.
Higher Algebra class of about 20-30 students was composed mostly of math graduate students having a good time [The Sink and Tulagi beer halls] in Boulder during the summer of 1958.
Classmate who sat next to Payne was student at Emporia State.
Classmate really was really good at math indicating Emporia State had a good math department.
Payne's test performance, with only one liberal arts math class, was not favorable compared to fellow students.
Payne was very lucky to get a C in the class.
Instructor Iranian Mr Zirakzadeh was understanding.
When Payne got a postcard from Zirakzadeh with the C grade. The C was underlined twice!
On return to Whitman in the fall of 1958, Payne took
Payne was able to do just about as well, if not as well, as fellow student Davidson.
Mr Underwood taught Differential Equations.
from Mr Underwood.
Weird stuff [George Cantor, ...] but real interesting.
Payne took logic course
from the Philosophy department at Whitman, from either Mr Soper or Mr Sikoro.
Professor William Hutchings [Ph.D. UC Berkeley] taught
Professor Hutchings told Payne that he didn't want Payne to leave Whitman to give the impression that he didn't learn very much math at Whitman!
So Hutchings tutored Payne in final semester at Whitman using
When Payne was dating future wife Patty at Purdue University, she was using
in her differential equations class.
Much more advanced book than Payne used at Whitman college!
And while Payne was taking
as a second year graduate student from professor Iving Burr, Patty was taking
from professor Burr.
Most liberal arts students Payne competed with at Whitman avoided math and science courses like the plague.
Payne observed that most liberal arts students are memorizers as opposed to thinkers.
But most liberal larts students are very verbal aka BS artists.
Most liberal arts students have BS degrees.
Most lawyers, media people, and bureaucrats in the US have liberal arts educations. Yuk.
Clearly going into law with merely a liberal arts degree is a perfect recipe for disaster.
Payne was admitted to graduate school at the University of Colorado in mathematics but went to Purdue in experimental and industrial psychology.
Payne had one minor in mathematics and a second in mathematical statistics for his Ph.D at Purdue.
Classmate in advanced calculus course in 1959 at Purdue was an undergraduate at the University of Colorado.
Classmate had also taken course from Zirakzadeh.
Classmate told Payne Zirakzadeh's first name was Aboulghassem(sp?).
Dale Penrose Harrell
Payne was participant in moving the books.
If Payne recalls correctly, Whitman reciprocated for student work with outdoor dinner that evening?
How to Choose a College
Bill was waiting Tuesday June 3, 2008 to talk with a Financial Consultant when he read the above in FORBES May 19, 2008 page 30.
Art Vall-Spinosa '59 and Bill Payne '59,
Greetings. My name is Brian Dohe and I'm in Albuquerque to meet with several alumni on Wednesday. I'll have finished my meetings by 4:00.
If your schedule(s) permit on Wednesday, I enjoy an opportunity to host you for afternoon drinks or dinner around 5:00 or 6:00 p.m. at a location that would be convenient to you. When I'm outside of the Pacific Northwest, I enjoy meeting with alumni and parents of students to provide updates about college initiatives and gather feedback from alumni. If you're available on Wednesday afternoon/evening, please suggest a location and a time. I promise that there's no plan to solicit a gift.
Thanks in advance for considering the invitation. I look forward to hearing from you and hope to meet you on Wednesday.
Brian Dohe, Development Officer
Bill expressed his concerns about liberal arts education.
Monday June 2, 2008 19:35
Detective Baker phoned at about 13:05.
The APD response was picked up at the Carillo station.
The question all of us must ask ourselves is: Are matters
going to get settled or get worse?
Here are the unread emails from Baker.
Monday May 12, 2008 14:59
After an intitial attempt to try to convince us that APD did not have jurisdiction
Detective Baker got our stories and complaints.
We continued to emphasize that Garcia was acting as a private citizen outside the scope of this authority in a garnishment attempt where rules were not followed.
Settlement time yet?
Morales reported that APD detective phoned him.
Former federal chief magistrate judge William Deaton seemed like a judge who was trying to do the right thing.
Perhaps that's the reason he is no long with the federal court system?
But he is with the Albuquerque Police Department!
Former federal magistrate judge William Deaton is central
to these matters.
Deaton was magistrate judge for John Conway and aided in getting Morales/Payne cases removed from New Mexico federal court.
Deaton was given a copy of the Buehler Swiss Radio International tape transcribed by Laszlo Baranyi.
Baranyi Crypto AG information is now linked at reference 10 at Wikipedia.
We should get matters settled before they get even worse. Which they did this morning.
When Payne was waiting for Morales in east parking lot at
APD officer arrived on a motorcycle with lights flashing just to the left of this photo at about 09:55.
The APD officer drew is pistol, aimed it at Payne's back, ordered Payne out of his vehicle, ordered Payne to turn around, and place his hands behind his neck.
The officer asked Payne if he had a gun. Payne responded negatively.
The officer [Romero?]told Payne to place his feet wide apart. The officer then searched Payne.
A second officer [Olmstad?], with gun first drawn, searched Payne's vehicle and found no gun.
We all went in to the above substation where Morales was waiting. Morales parked on west side of the station since he arrived from the west. Payne parked on the east side since he arrived from the east.
The officer in charge said that the substation has been threatened. And someone phoned to report that man in bue shirt and camo hat [an official US issued hat] had a gun.
Shall we ask for the police report on this drawn gun matter?
No gun. Digital camera, yes. From our police state point of view, everything can be mistaken for a gun.
Pacer garnishment docket as of Friday April 18, 2008 10:49.
We visited PACER to look for docket entry 88. It is not posted on PACER.
88 strikes MALDEF lawyer, not judge, Martha Vazquez threat
"...without authority, its judgments and orders are regarded as nullities. They are not voidable, but simply void; and form no bar to a recovery sought, even prior to a reversal in opposition to them. They constitute no justification; and all persons concerned in executing such judgments or sentences, are considered, in law, as trespassers." Elliot v. Piersol, 1 Pet. 328, 340, 26 U.S. 328, 340 (1828) ""
Martha Vazquez has been internationally labelled a crooked judge.
Now we have to show the world that in the United States crooked lawyers are imprisoned if they get caught committing crimes in writing.
But we needed visibility to reach this point in our legal project. This was purpose of filing FOIA lawsuit Civ No: 97 2266 SC AM 10:51 against the National Security Agency.
We're linking to the PACER pdf documents to show lawyers,
not judges - no jurisdiction, Vazquez, Armijo and Garcia got caught committing
New Mexico state crimes in writing.
Guilt of the accused is in the docket record.
We need to write a brief letter to a detective - we have a phone call to him.
Keep in mind that these guys are experienced. They have learned it's best to get a message so as to give them some time to frame a response.
We are not in a rush. Keep in mind that the goal is to settle, not particularly to send some crooked lawyers to jail. No money is that.
We will reference Northern New Mexico Adhoc Committee For Honesty in Government points
2. Threats, intimidation, infliction of emotional duress, personally and via the US Mail;
The visibility of these matters continues to escalate because of the efforts of lots of people.
NAME William H Payne ALBUQUERQUE POLICE DEPARTMENT
ALBUQUERQUE NEW MEXICO
ADDRESS 13015 Calle de Sandias NE DATE:
Albuquerque 87111 TIME:
DATE OF BIRTH June 11, 1937 CASE NUMBER:
SOC. SEC. NO. xxx-xx-xxxx
HOME PHONE 505-292-7037 WORK PHONE
I "William H Payne" willingly and voluntary give this statement to Officer / Detective Christian Baker who I know to be a member of the Albuquerque Police Department. I understand that I do not have to give a statement and any statement that I do give can be used in a court of law if necessary.
Lawyers John W Zavitz, Kevin Hammar, Lorenzo Garcia and Martha Vazquez alleged to have committed some or all criminal violations
1 30-3A-2. Harassment
for amount of at least $ with all evidence of alleged crimes in writing.
Motivation for these New Mexico state crimes requires enumeration of historical development to understand what happened.
1 Aug. 6, 1991 Shahpour Bakhtiar, the last prime minister of the Shah of Iran, and his personal secretary Katibeh Fallouch were assassinated in the west Paris suburb of Suresnes.
WRITTEN EVIDENCE OF ALLEGED CRIMES:
There can be no fair hearing in New Mexico since then federal chief magistrate judge William Deaton told Payne and Assistant US Attorney Phyllis Dow at a meeting on 3/22/01 that it would be impossible to have fair hearings in New Mexico.
All evidence of guilt of the accused is in writing in court
records seen at
THE ABOVE STATEMENT WAS GIVEN FREELY AND VOLUNTARILY BY ME. I HAVE READ THE ABOVE STATEMENT AND IT IS TRUE AND CORRECT TO THE BEST OF MY KNOWLEDGE.
WITNESS _______________________DATE _______________
Keep in mind readers that we have crooked lawyers and NO JUDGES.
Judges are only judges so long as they have jurisdiction. Garcia and Armijo did not have jurisdiction for a variety of reasons.
So let's compose our APD criminal complaint affidavit.
Payne made an initial statement to APD Detective about attempt to take at least $22,036 from our Sandia Laboratory Federal Credit Union accounts without due process.