Wind

PNMELECTIC
First posted
Saturday December 30, 2006 10:36
Updated
Saturday June 1, 2013 06:50

House, NM FPL wind farm field trip, Friday December 30, 2011.

NEXTera Energy non-response RESPONSE Monday January 23, 2012 06:43.

High lonesome wind farm essential non-gas-wasting field trip Saturday November 12, 2011.

Maine turbine's launch makes history
North America's first floating offshore wind turbine will soon be towed to a site off Castine.

Posted: June 01. 2013 12:56AM

Bankrupt Europe has a lesson for Congress about wind power. Friday March 28, 2013 08:36

[Maintenance issues may doom wind turbine generation of electricity.

Carcases of windmills littler New Mexico.]


Peter Schweizer: Solyndra Is “Tip of the Iceberg” of “Very Suspicious” Govt. Loans

 

Tuesday September 13, 2011 15:39

Wind Power | High Lonesome Mesa Wind Project



Windmill and wind turbine essential non-gas-wasting field trip to Belen/Mountainair/Williard/Estancia/Cedar Crest on Saturday September 10, 2010.

Media benefits of audio, still photos, text, and video under study.

No transmission lines seen coming from Willard wind farm.

Further investigation required.

Main object of wind generation of electricity may be to sell and maintain wind turbines, not produce electricity?

No promised phone call from Sandia National Laboratories Mr Mark Rumsey.

http://www.prosefights.org/wind/wind.htm#willard






is 'working'.

Tail did not appear to be functioning properly and sometime the blades reversed direction.

Video of above. What conveys more information: still or video?

Located next to BNSF tracks near Abo ruins near Mountainair, New Mexico.



Wind turbine farm photographed from highway south of Willard, New Mexico.



Ranch with windmill on property adjoins wind turbine farm.

Rancher whose property adjoins Willard wind turbine farm told bill that one of the turbines fell on his property.

And that two had to be disassembled and replaced.

Lots of maintenance required.

Rancher owns windmill and discussed its maintenance.

"Did you ever fall off your windmill', bill asked. Rancher responded, "No, but I left finger prints on the ladder.'

Video interview with rancher about Willard wind turbine farm!

Video of Willard High Lonesome wind farm [ranch?] turbines spinning.
Rancher and bll talked for about 15 minutes.

Rancher talked about cost/benefit of wind farms. He was super-knowledgeable about windmills since he owns at least one which you see.

Windmill which compresses air manufacturing company is apparently north of Socorro, New Mexico, rancher told bill. Another essential non-gas-wasting field trip?

Bill neglected to bring mp3 recorder. Big mistake.



New Mexico Citizens Alliance for Responsible Energy and Sustainability

Video of still photo pictured at above site.

newmexicocare@gmail.com


 


Monday July 25, 2011 19:40

Liberal arts approach to altenergy. 











Wind Turbine Transmission Technology.

Google has made its first direct investment in utility-scale renewable energy generation, providing $38.8m to two North Dakota wind farm projects.

The wind farms are expected to make use of cutting edge turbine technologies, pioneering the use of control systems that can constantly monitor output from each turbine and continuously adjust individual blade angles to improve efficiency and enable the use of blades that are 15 per cent larger than on standard turbines.
ERCOT real-time wind data.

Windchill chart.

Incorporates heat transfer theory, heat loss from the body to its surroundings, during cold and breezy/windy days

We need to outline how we can compute heat rate for wind-generated electricity.

And measure it too using Harbor Freight equipment.

We know how to compute heat rate from an wind turbine electric generator when the wind is not blowing!

No. We won't do wind starting Monday March 22, 2010.

3413 BTU IN is required for 1 kWh OUT, if the second law of thermodynamics applies to wind generated electricity.

Saturday January 30, 2010 essential non-gas-wasting trip



(8.817 * 144,000)/257.7 = 3900.42 BTU/mile

to [see map]



where 217 jogs to the south to photograph working water pump



Aermotor wind mill. Wheel diameter 6'? $2,900. Tower 21-27 feet? $2,200-2,900.



Tuesday June 30, 2009 06:42

Are wind electric generation companies generating enough income from electricity sales to pay land owners' lease money?

QOTD: Renewables Investing Passed Fossil Fuels in 2008 comment 4.

QOTD: Renewables Investing Passed Fossil Fuels in 2008 comment 3.

QOTD: Renewables Investing Passed Fossil Fuels in 2008 comment 2.

Concern about solar and wind electricity generations has been raised by

fast neutron
Santa Fe, NM
January 12, 2009

From actual experience, wind farms produce 1.2 watts per square meter. Solar Thermal and Photovoltaic methods capture 5 to 6 watts per square meter. There is no economy of size in either technology. Dividing the watts you need by those values gives the land area in square meters needed to produce the juice. The numbers are astronomical

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/santa-fe-new-mexican/T0QVJ5UD3R25C8HRL

and Keith O. Rattie said on April 2, 2009
Why did my generation fail to develop wind and solar? Because our energy choices are ruthlessly ruled, not by political judgments, but by the immutable laws of thermodynamics. In engineer-speak, turning diffused sources of energy such as photons in sunlight or the kinetic energy in wind requires massive investment to concentrate that energy into a form that's usable on any meaningful scale.

http://www.prosefights.org/wind/wind.htm#taxcredits



Albuquerque Journal Sunday June 28, 2009

Tax Credits for Home Windmills

The market for small wind turbines that can generate enough juice to power a home, farm, or small business grew by 78% in 2008, according to the American Wind Energy Association (AWEA). A new 30% tax credit in the federal economic-stimulus bill, combined with state and local incentives, is likely to further expand the already booming market.

Americans installed about 10,500 small turbines last year-about half the world's total-at a cost of $77 million, and the AWEA expects a 30-fold increase in the next five years. A typical home windmill is used in conjunction with electricity from local utilities. When wind is light, electricity comes from the utility company; when high winds blow, excess power may be sent back to the grid.

Ron Stimmel of the AWEA estimates that about 13 million U.S. homes could sustain small windmills, which range in size from 30 to 140 feet. If you're thinking of setting up your own, you'll need a big down payment and some patience-the systems cost about $40,000 to install and take five to 15 years to pay for themselves. Zoning restrictions and objections from neighbors also pose obstacles. Says Stimmel: "There's a lot of outreach going on to help cultivate public acceptance of having an unusual thing like a turbine in your backyard."



Can Mass Megawatts Wind Power Secure Its Niche? comment.

Thursday 11 June 2009 12.48 BST The great gusting winds of the American midwest – and possibly the hopes for the most promising clean energy source – may be dying, in part because of climate change, according to a new report.

A study, due to be published in August in the peer-reviewed Journal of Geophysical Research, suggests that average and peak winds may have been slowing across the midwest and eastern states since 1973.

Winds of the Kiowas comment.

Tuesday May 19, 2009 10:25

Charged Up About Alternative Energy comment.

Altenergy may be a scam for reasons of not enough BTUs IN to produce claimed BTUs out.

Some Albuquerque residents speculated that Eclipse Aviation was a scam. Eclipse originally proposed to use cruise missile engines in its aircraft. This proposal hightened suspicions of scam.

Eclipse suspected scam was successful.

$100,000 per year for 10 years was taken from investors.
Eclipse Owes Creditors $1 Billion.

New Mexico establishment is large corrupt. This includes both state and federal legal systems

http://www.prosefights.org/nmlegal/vazquez/vazquez#supremecourt

as well as the Albuquerque Journal. And incompetent too. They keep getting caught.
|
http://www.prosefights.org/wind/wind.htm#energyeconomy




Albuquerque Journal Tuesday May 19, 2009

fast neutron
Santa Fe, NM
January 12, 2009

From actual experience, wind farms produce 1.2 watts per square meter. Solar Thermal and Photovoltaic methods capture 5 to 6 watts per square meter. There is no economy of size in either technology. Dividing the watts you need by those values gives the land area in square meters needed to produce the juice. The numbers are astronomical

http://www.topix.net/forum/source/santa-fe-new-mexican/T0QVJ5UD3R25C8HRL


But the Encraft study, which came out last month, found that many of the turbines didn't meet manufacturers claims for power generation. Some turbines needed to go offline at times because of technical problems or complaints over noise.

"We are evaluating whether or not one or several wind turbines may be helpful in supplementing the power supply," said Vic Svec, a Peabody vice president. He added that Peabody was still in the early stages of its analysis and couldn't say how many turbines it was considering or when a decision would be made.

Towering turbines draw ire comment.

Thursday December 25 2008 10:15

The Year in Wind: Boom Followed by Gloom comment.

http://www.prosefights.org/wind/wind.htm#sweetwater

Looking east traveling south out of Sweetwater, TX Tuesday December 23, 2008.

Wind turbines seen on the horizon is a typical view from Post, TX to south of Sweetwater in both west and east directions.

James Oswald, an engineering consultant and former head of research and development at Rolls-Royce Turbines, who led the study, said: "Wind power does not obviate the need for fossil fuel plants, which will continue to be indispensable.

Wednesday, August 27, 2008 6:54 AM That is a symptom of a broad national problem. Expansive dreams about renewable energy, like Al Gore's hope of replacing all fossil fuels in a decade, are bumping up against the reality of a power grid that cannot handle the new demands.

The dirty secret of clean energy is that while generating it is getting easier, moving it to market is not.

August 26, 2008 • England Campaigners who are trying to topple plans for a huge new wind farm which they say would devastate the landscape have won the backing of planning chiefs.

Sunday, August 24, 2008 In the decade since, the initial three wind turbines have grown into a farm that's 17 strong. And Kotzebue - located above the Arctic Circle - generates 7 percent of its electricity from wind.

This translates to a savings of 100,000 gallons of diesel per year, which at last year's prices amounted to $250,000. This year's cost savings are expected to be well above $300,000.

Wind Integration/Ancillary Services Requirements Study.

Sunday May 13, 2008 south of Post, TX concrete power poles spotted. Note wind turbines in background.

Number of new wind turbines between Post to south of Sweetwater, TX is almost unbelieveable.

Also unbelieveable is the absense of transmission towers.

The transmission problem is so acute in Texas that turbines are sometimes shut off even when the wind is blowing.

“When the amount of generation exceeds the export capacity, you have to start turning off wind generators” to keep things in balance, said Hunter Armistead, head of the renewable energy division in North America at Babcock & Brown, a large wind developer and transmission provider. “We’ve reached that point in West Texas.”

Air consitioned Austin,TX McMansions off Bee Cave road Sunday July 13, 2008.



Stringing power lines north of Roscoe and south of Synder, TX Wednesday July 16, 2008.



Fort Sumner, NM Thursday July 17, 2008.






Wind power electricity can be used to run electric motors to pump water. But is the above more economical?



Are Wind Energy Users' Fees Fair?

By Jack King
Journal Staff Writer

The New Mexico Public Regulation Commission is trying to determine if subscribers to Public Service Company of New Mexico's voluntary renewable energy program, known as "Sky Blue," are being overcharged by the utility, which also assesses them a fuel adjustment fee.

At the request of PRC Chairman Jason Marks, the commission has opened an investigation into PNM's program aimed at determining if the effect of having to pay a surcharge for both the Sky Blue program and the fuel adjustment clause is "unjust, unreasonable or excessive," PRC spokesman Paul Carbajal said Monday.

Under Sky Blue, customers' can pay a surcharge of $.0169 per kilowatt hour to get their power from alternative-energy. They can get up to 90 percent of their power from those sources. Under that scenario, a residential consumer whose total use was 600 kilowatt hours could use a maximum of 540 kilowatt hours of alter- native energy and would pay an extra $9 per month.

The fuel adjustment clause is intended to let the company recover its costs for the increasing price of fuel. During hearings, PNM mentioned the costs of natural gas, coal and nuclear power. Under the adjustment clause, approved by the PRC in May, a residential customer using 600 kwh per month pays an additional $9.30 in the summer and $6.85 the rest of the year.

In a letter to PNM, Marks wrote, "A customer who is paying for 90 percent of their demand to come from wind is not responsible for fossil fuel and other purchased-power cost increases for that 90 percent portion of his or her bill."

An order issued by the PRC asks PNM to answer over a dozen questions, including whether Sky Blue subscribers should be charged for fossil fuel cost increases.

PNM spokeswoman Susan Sponar said the company agrees the issues needs to be reviewed. "We'll be working to respond to the PRC's questions," she said.

Albuquerque Journal Tuesday July 22, 2008



PNM's Green Efforts Lauded

Utility Beating State Guidelines

By Sue Major Holmes
The Associated Press

New Mexico's largest electric utility was recently praised by an environmental group for being ahead in the renewable energy game. The state Legislature last year began requiring that investor-owned utilities such as Public Service Company of New Mexico generate 20 percent of their total retail sales to New Mexico customers from renewable energy resources by 2020. The standard will gradually rise to that level from a current base of 6 percent.

New Mexico uses a system of credits to ensure compliance with what it calls the Renewable Portfolio Standard - how much energy comes from renewable sources.

Robert Ukeiley, climate and energy director for WildEarth Guardians, praised PNM for the number of renewable energy credits it has for meeting the standard.

PNM met the standard last year by purchasing renewable energy certificates and by retiring certificates held from previous years. Such credits can be obtained, for example, from other utilities or independent energy generators. Renewable energy certificates, called RECs, are a way to measure and track renewable energy - each kilowatt from renewable sources such as wind or solar is worth one certificate, said PNM spokeswoman Cathy Garber. New Mexico wants renewable energy generated in the state when possible.

"Right now we are definitely trying to encourage the development of the renewable resources themselves in New Mexico," said Roy Stephenson, director of the utility division staff of the state Public Regulation Commission.

Ukeiley said it's relatively easy to generate renewable energy in New Mexico, and he doesn't believe the state's standard is aggressive enough given the great potential for wind and solar in New Mexico.

"They're (PNM) doing a good job," Ukeiley said. "We (New Mexico) could be doing better."

The state should do more to tap the potential of the sun and the wind, particularly with the increase in the cost of energy generated by oil and gas and because of the effects of climate change, WildEarth Guardians said.

PNM's renewable energy came from the New Mexico Wind Energy Center near Santa Rosa, from photovoltaic systems owned by customers and from two small photovoltaic facilities at Algodones and the roof of PNM's Aztec facility, Garber said.

PNM is one of three investor-owned utilities that must meet the renewable energy limit. PRC figures show the other two - Southwestern Public Service, a division of Xcel Energy, and El Paso Electric Co. - also meet the standards.

New Mexico's 19 rural electric cooperatives won't fall under the renewable energy requirement until 2015, although some are complying voluntarily, Stephenson said. In 2015, cooperatives will be required to get 5 percent of their electricity from renewable sources; that goes to 10 percent in 2020.

Most cooperatives purchase all of their electricity from a single source, leaving them with less flexibility than a large utility has, Stephenson said.

PNM plans to use the same wind and solar sources to meet the 6 percent requirement this year and next year. The requirement for utilities rises to 10 percent in 2011 and 15 percent in 2015 before ultimately going to 20 percent.

Albuquerque Journal Business Outlook Monday July 21, 2008

Wind turbine failure.



·N.M. doing good job of tapping wind energy, according to report

Copyright © 2008 Albuquerque journal

By Jack King
Journal Staff Writers

You could call the Land of Enchantment "the little state that could."

At 496 megawatts of wind generation capacity, New Mexico ranks 10th among U.S. states in its "developed", ability to generate power from clean, wind-powered turbines, according to a report by the American Wind Energy Association.

"Developed" means the power is generated from projects already built or under construction, said Christine Real de Azua, the association's assistant director of communications.

New Mexico may be only 10th, but it's doing an excellent job with what it has. According to the association, New Mexico ranks 12th on another list showing wind energy potential, Azua said.

New Mexico's wind development rankings put it behind Texas.- the top state with 4,356 megawatts - as well as California, Minnesota, Iowa, Washington, Colorado, Oregon, Illinois and Oklahoma.

On the other hand, it ranked ahead of North Dakota, the No. 1 ranked state in terms of potential to generate wind energy, as well as other top-ranked states:

Kansas, South Dakota, Montana and Nebraska. Texas is the No. 2 ranked. state in terms of wind potential.

Real de Azua said a 1991 study by the Pacific Northwest Laboratory for the U.S. Department of Energy ranked the states in terms of available windy land~ and how much energy, recorded wind speeds could theoretically generate from a turbine.

"This says New Mexico is not lagging in the way it is tapping its potential," she said.

State Energy, Minerals and Natural Resources spokeswoman Jodi Porter suggested that New Mexico's wind energy potential is much bigger than reported.

"New Mexico's potential for electricity from wind is enormous; we have some of the best individual sites in the country, especially on the eastern plains. Our state could produce many more times its own electrical consumption, putting us in a position to export wind power," she said.

Data for the report comes primarily from companies that are members of the wind energy association and is revised quarterly, according to the AWEA Web site.

Albuquerque Journal Tuesday March 18, 2008





Story and Photographs by SHAMINDER DULAI Of the Journal

It's hard to imagine the American frontier without a windmill poking out of the horizon, its silver vanes slicing the crosswmds.

Though electricity-generating giants have sometimes sprouted in their place, the traditional windmills that once pumped up groundwater for thirsty livestock have largely become decorative fixtures.

Along with the windmills have gone the windmill men.

Derrill Mitchell, owner of Mitchell's Windmill & Supply Inc. in Fort Sumner, says he is among the last of his kind.

"It's a dying art," Mitchell says as he takes a moment from machining new parts to wipe his brow. The metallic shavings of discarded gears catch the afternoon sun as they cagcade to the floor of his workshop.

Mitchell says he is the only windmill man in New Mexico who still machines parts, one of a dwindling number across the country.

Windmills haven't changed much over the years, he says: "A part from a 1935 Aermotor still fits a 1962, or a 1989 or a 2008."

On the Web

Some more photo of the windmill men at work at www.ABQjournal.com

Mitchell and his crew have been called on to install or repair windmills across the Southwest, through America's breadbasket and beyond.

Rancher Ted Olney leans against a post in the chill of an eastern New Mexico morning as he shares one-liners with Mitchell and his crew.

When a well dried up on his ranch just outside Fort Sumner and his cattle were left without water, he called on Mitchell to plant a new windmill.

There wasn't anything complicated about the decision in Olney's eye. "We gotta have water for the livestock."

Olney has about 10 windmills spinning water out of ground wells on his property; he has come to rely on wind power to keep his ranch running.

Which is why farmers and ranchers like Olney have come to rely on people like Mitchell to keep windmills in working order.

Good work on a project usually means good word of mouth within the tight-knit circle of ranchers and farmers.

"We're all word of mouth here, which most people trust more than a fancy ad," Mitchell says.

Even while Mitchell was installing Olney's windmill, the rancher's phone rang: a farmer friend wondering if Olney could recommend a windmill man.

That's largely how it has been during Mitchell's 30 years working his trade out of the little brick workshop along Fourth Street in Fort Sumner. Since taking over the company in 1977, Mitchell has erected windmills from California to Virginia and shipped parts as far as Hawaii and China - and it all happened on a fluke.

A union strike at a Kerr McGee uranium mine in Grants suddenly left Mitchell as an unemployed machinist and forced him to return tp the Melrose area, where he and his wife had been raised.

His father-in-law told him of a windmill shop in Fort Sumner that was in need of a machinist. After four years of working for Shell Denison at Denison Machine Company, Mitchell got an opportunity to take over the business.

"He wanted to retire and I wanted to go into debt, so it all worked out," Mitchell recalls with a laugh.

Albuquerque Journal Sunday February 17, 2008.

Reason for this page is to solicit educated and intelligent comments on whether wind to electricity makes EROEI [energy returned on energy invested] sense?

Viewing HUGE wind farm expansion south of Sweetwater, TX over the past several years made us curious. And in 2007 just south of Snyder, TX.

Or are the wind farms being built to swindle investors by some crooked scientists, engineers, lawyers and wind farm builders? Where is the money to build coming from? Pension funds?

After talking to

at the electric irp on Thursday January 32, 2008, we got a much more positive impression of the importance of wind electric power generation.

Nelson reported that wind electric power is being used to compress air in caves and other structures.

Look at the bottom line Compressed Air Energy.

This air is apparently release and combined with a small amount of natural gas and burned to drive turbine generators extremely efficiently.

Nelson cited installations in Germany as well as an installation in Alabama.

Spain apparently is experimenting with compressed air wind energy storage.

Nelson also reported that compressed air storage in old oil fields is being studied but possible problems of not being able to release the air fast enough and oil contamination which would damage turbines may be problems.

WASHINGTON, DC, January 31, 2008 (ENS) - Overturning all previous records, the U.S. wind energy industry installed 5,244 megawatts of power in 2007, expanding the nation's total wind power generating capacity by 45 percent in a single calendar year and injecting an investment of over $9 billion into the economy, according to the American Wind Energy Association, AWEA. ...

Texas has the most installed wind generating capacity, with California in second place and Minnesota in third, with Iowa close behind. Washington rounds out the list of top five states.

Wind Turbine Plans Hinge on Permit

By Laura Nesbitt
Mountain View Telegraph

A wind generating company says it will be ready to start construction on a wind farm south of Willard in the spring. Managers of the High Lonesome Wind Ranch LLC were expected to submit an application for a zoning ordinance for a special use district for the farm.

"We're ready to put our application~ in. We had to pull together lots of pieces. These are. complex projects," said Amy LeGere, Foresight Wind Energy regional development manager.

The wind project, is about nine miles south of Willard on private land on Mesa de los Jumanos and is being developed by High Lonesome Wind Ranch LLC, a partnership of Foresight Wind, Karbon Zero and Edison Mission Group.

While other wind companies have constructed meteorological, or MET, towers to assess available wind in the area, HLWR would be Torrance County's first wind project, LeGere said.

Construction of the wind energy generation facility may begin as early as April and would bring about 200 temporary jobs to the area. The final project would create about 10 permanent high-tech and high-paying jobs, LeGere said.

"Project financing is in place. ... We're negotiating a 30-year power sale contract with a regional utility," LeGere said. The price of that power would be fixed or "kicked in," not like the "volatility of fuel markets," LeGere said.

There would be 40, 2.5-megawatt turbines generating a total of about 100 megawatts of electricity -enough to supply power to about 30,000 homes. The wind turbines - measuring about 15 to 20 feet in diameter -would be built on five square miles of private land owned by Goemmer Land & Livestock Co.

"The 40 turbines will span approximately five miles," said Ednen Hindi, Karbon Zero director of projects.

Along with wind assessment studies, HLWR has performed cultural studies and studied the paths of raptors, bats and small birds in the area.

"Because modern wind turbines turn slower and are on steel towers," they are less likely to kill birds, and modem steel towers are less suitable for building nests than older, lattice towers, LeGere said.

HLWR would build an operations and maintenance building, and a collection substation on the mesa for the facility, LeGere said.

The project proposal has been presented to Torrance County Commission, county Planning and Zoning and the Village of Willard by HLWR, LeGere said.

County Manager Joy Ansley said the county plans to work with HLWR on applying for industrial revenue bonds.

Because the county has tax exempt status, the bonds are ''a way of giving a tax benefit to a company or a project," LeGere said.

At the Jan. 9 Torrance County Commission meeting, Jimmy Corliss, who lives close to the wind energy generation facility site, told commissioners he would like to close about three miles of Corliss Road East, a road accessing the area.

After the meeting, Corliss said he planned to ask area residents to sign a petition supporting the closure because trucks from the wind company are "tearing up the countryside and we're not getting compensated for it."

Ansley said the matter will not be on the commission agenda until February.

Albuquerque Journal Saturday January 26, 2008

Betting on Batteries

By Salvatore Salamone

Seeking to boost reliability in the short term and integrate wind-generated energy in the long term, American Electric Power is about to deploy several large-scale sodium sulfur batteries on its distribution grid.

The company has ordered three of the batteries, each rated at two megawatts, from NGK Insulators of Japan.

Michael G. Morris, AEP's chairman, president and CEO, said, "These new installations will move us a step closer to the full potential of advanced energy storage technologies in areas like reliability improvement, peak-load shaving, and the use of stored energy from renewable sources like wind to supplement available generation resources."

The use of this type of battery is not that common. However, AEP has been an early adopter of this technology; its first pilot program was in 2002. Traditionally, utilities have relied on lead acid batteries. And some utilities now use batteries based on other technologies that while promising, are not yet as robust or do not have the storage capacity of the sodium sulfur batteries.

Why the interest in the batteries? According to Ali Nourai, strategic technology consultant and battery guru at AEP, the company selected the batteries for a number of reasons. "We wanted something in the 1 to 10-megawatt range with four to eight hours of energy storage," Nourai said. "That eliminated many other battery types."

The idea is to use the batteries at specific substations to delay the need for an upgrade. When the upgrade does take place, AEP will be able to move the batteries to another location. "Other batteries are three to five times larger, so they are harder to relocate," Nourai said. That relocation requirement also eliminated some non-battery technologies. For instance, some companies rely on a hydroelectric or compressed air technology to complement a substation's power. Neither can easily be moved.

Beyond the Pilot Stage

This new battery deployment is not a technology evaluation project. This is an operational deployment, according to Nourai. The batteries are intended to help AEP support the exponential growth in demand of distributed generated power hooked up to its grid.

Another consideration for using these batteries is to support future wind generation efforts. The idea of using batteries to store energy generated by alternative power generation technologies such as wind and solar is gaining attention these days. For instance, so-called wind-to-wire efforts seek to store wind power generated at night when demands are low. Similar efforts with solar energy projects seek to smooth out day to night variations in solar generated power.

According to Nourai, wind storage was a consideration when selecting the batteries. However, he noted there were higher priorities including improving reliability.

In particular, one of the batteries will be used in West Virginia where storm-related power outages can be quite common. The batteries will provide energy storage in the middle of the line to reduce the total customer outage minutes. For that effort, AEP will add two megawatts of sodium sulfur battery capacity near Milton, W.Va., to enhance reliability and allow for continued load growth in that area, according to the company.

AEP will put another two megawatts of battery capacity near Findlay, Ohio to enhance reliability, provide support for weak sub-transmission systems, and avoid equipment overload.

Factors like these are being used to cost-justify using the batteries. For example, it is expected to cost AEP $27 million for the batteries, the associated work to prepare the three substations, and for control systems. Some of the cost can be offset by a reduction in customer outage minutes and by providing additional capacity to postpone substation upgrades.

The total six megawatts capacity of these batteries is just the start. "Our near-term goal is to have at least 25 megawatts of sodium sulfur battery capacity in place by the end of this decade," Morris said. The company hopes to add another 1,000 megawatts of advanced storage technology in the next 10 years.

energybizinsider December 26 2007

Patty and bill travelled on Sunday December 23, 2007 from Lubbock to Austin, TX to spend Christmas with son, daughter, grandchildern and in-laws.

Going south from Lubbock a gas-fired [no coal piles] electric power generation was observed to the east.



South of Lubbock there is agriculture - mostly cotton.

Then the highway descends into Post, TX and lot of of oil jack pumps are seen with accompanying smells.

Just to the south and to the west is an OLD wind turbine farm.



Further to the immediate south of Snyder, TX are NEW WIND TURBINES NOT SEEN IN DECEMBER 2006!!!



Above photo only captures a small number of the Turbines seen.

Siemens has a sign.

South of Synder and to west of Sweetwater, TX are LOTS MORE wind turbines



which only appeared within the last several years.

Looks like some in the US are super-concerned about oil and natural gas depletion.

Southeast of Sweetwater is Brady, TX where



some have a good sense of humor.

Grandfather and grandson



are viewing peak energy video on Sunday December 23, 2007.

Because wind generation is immensely erratic and hard to forecast it is almost impossible to incorporate it into the grid without compromising reliability. Detailed study of inflow and outflow between Germany and Scandanavia demonstrates that as much as 84 per cent of west Denmark’s wind power is exported to Norway (at a loss to Danish consumers of about £100million) (4).

Currently, the Danish Wind Industry Association (DWIA) admits: ‘Danish wind power only contributes to adequacy [of supply] with a capacity value of zero.’ That is, wind’s generating capacity does not guarantee any of the basic and essential electrical supply.

wind - Most wind turbines generate electricity from naturally occurring wind. Solar updraft towers use wind that is artificially produced inside the chimney by heating it with sunlight.

PNM electric integrated resource planning July 2, 2007 showed

and

Looks like wind supplies when there is no demand.

Urban Survival Tuesday April 24, 2007

Wind Power - Overblown

If you think that wind power is the be-all end-all solution to our power needs, you might want to recalibrate. Seems wind power doesn't have the much hyped payback that its promoters claim and there's a new sheriff in town - National Wind Watch which says, among other things:

"Wind speed is unpredictable except in general terms. Even on a windy day it varies, and therefore so does the output from wind turbines. On the electric supply grid, wind turbines behave less like a supplier and more like a user, in that they are outside of the control of the grid dispatchers who must continuously balance electricity supply and demand."

Not that wind power doesn't have its place. For example, when we were living on our sailboat in San Francisco a few years back, we had all kinds of power from our Southwest Wind Power marine unit, and not just when going to weather in "hurricane alley" just inside the Gate.

Our Canadian Bureau Chief Tim B fills us in on other haps:

"Lessee here--install 7300 MW capacity of bird-blenders to get 200 MW useful output? OH, don't ferget ya gotta invest BILLIONS in upgrading the grid to handle all that ampacity that won't ever be there!

ALBERTA just last week said NO MORE wind power capacity, because it is so unreliable, and above 20% capacity they risk rolling blackouts if the wind dies, so they are going to install (surprise!) NG-FIRED plants to handle peak load!!!

DIRTY SECRET--on the Canucki Prairies in dead of Jan/Feb, when it gets down to -minus 30C or even -40C, that's when there is NO WIND.

The U.S. wind energy industry installed 2,454 megawatts (MW) of new generating capacity in 2006, an investment of approximately $4 billion, billing wind as one of the largest sources of new power generation in the country -- second only to natural gas -- for the second year in a row. New wind farms boosted cumulative U.S. installed wind energy capacity by 27 percent to 11,603 MW, well above the 10,000-MW milestone reached in August 2006. One megawatt of wind power produces enough electricity to serve 250 to 300 homes on average each day.

Hassan Masum
January 4, 2007 12:47 PM

Paul Gipe has been involved with wind energy for 30 years. He has authored several books in the field, and was instrumental in the successful campaign for Ontario's 2006 implementation of Advanced Renewable Tariffs to promote distributed renewable energy supply.

The gearbox translates the blades' 30- to 60-rpm rotational speed to the 1200 to 1500 rpm necessary to operate a generator. Texas blades appeared to be turning much slower than 30-60 rpm.

Energy Probe helped crank up the debate in November when it issued a report that said wind turbines are much less reliable than expected.

Data collected from three wind farms near Lake Huron during the summer and fall showed the turbines produced only 22.3 per cent of their potential capacity for electricity generation. Another problem: The wind often died in mid-morning when customer demand was gearing up.

Altogether, about 12 off-shore wind projects are under consideration in the United States. Texas has proposed 150 megawatt project about seven miles off of Galveston Island. Texas is uncommon because the wind farm would be built entirely in state-owned waters, unlike most proposed off-shore deals that are in federal waters

In Texas, as in many other parts of the country, power companies are scrambling to build generating stations to meet growing peak demands, generally driven by air-conditioning for new homes and businesses. But power plants that run on coal or gas must “be built along with every megawatt of wind capacity,” said William Bojorquez, director of system planning at the Electric Reliability Council of Texas.

The reason is that in Texas, and most of the United States, the hottest days are the least windy. As a result, wind turns out to be a good way to save fuel, but not a good way to avoid building plants that burn coal. A wind machine is a bit like a bicycle that a commuter keeps in the garage for sunny days. It saves gasoline, but the commuter has to own a car anyway.

But neither wind nor solar power can be used to meet surging energy demands. And, while wind may be a low-cost resource when it is blowing, no renewable resources will provide for the large "base load" resources that Colorado needs the most.

An economic analyst claims he's done the numbers and wind energy is costing the Victorian Government far more money than any wind turbines could generate.

In addition wind is very unreliable, it cuts in and cuts out, so you have to have backup for it, so the costs are somewhat in excess of that crude depiction of the premium price you have to pay for wind.

"Oh, well they just cut in and cut out. Windfarms on average operate for 25 per cent of the time, but they only operate when the wind is blowing, so when the wind isn't blowing they're not available. I think it was well publicised in South Australia a wek or so ago when they had a heatwave of 42 or so degrees and suddenly none of the windfarms were operating, or only operating at very low level and one of them caught fire. Wind is not and cannot be reliable. You can rely on it to be there when you need it only 10 per cent of the time," he says.

Since 1980, the cost of power from wind farms has dropped from 38 cents to 4 to 7 cents per kWh, and it continues to decline. The cost of wind energy is now on a par with the cost of coal and gas, and it is cheaper than nuclear. As a result, the industry is in a period of extraordinary growth.

Q What happens when the winds doesn't blow?

The Economics of Wind Energy

In order for wind to generate enough power to replace a typical power plant it would take up to 300 square miles of wind turbines. That is the size (and view) of New York City for one replacement wind farm!

The exact efficiency of wind farms is nearly impossible to pinpoint. The problem is found in the factors that go into the analysis. The terrain, amount of wind, size of turbines and so on varies from wind farm to farm. There is no constant, which makes it difficult to nail down general efficiency ratings. In general, a single wind turbine will convert about 20 percent of the energy in wind to electricity. The most efficient production occurs between five and 20 miles an hour of wind speed. This general 20 percent efficiency rating is roughly seven to five percent more efficient than solar power, but sunlight is constant whereas wind is not.

Must be located in an area with steady prevailing winds

The comparison of energy used in manufacture with the energy produced by a power station is known as the 'energy balance'. It can be expressed in terms of energy 'pay back' time, i.e. as the time needed to generate the equivalent amount of energy used in manufacturing the wind turbine or power station.

The average wind farm in the UK will pay back the energy used in its manufacture within six to eight months, this compares favourably with coal or nuclear power stations, which take about six months.

Q Is above statement true?

We are in the business of providing legal advice to those in the energy industry, and have been for nearly a century. With this rich history, we have developed one of the most accomplished wind energy practices in the U.S. We have over twenty lawyers who regularly advise industry participants, including developers, utilities, governments, lenders, landowners and others, on the intricacies of wind project development, construction and finance.

Simply put, Andrews Kurth knows wind energy.

Home of the world's largest wind turbine farm.

The Sweetwater Wind Farm electric generation facility for Sweetwater Wind Power, LLC, is the first phase of a planned multi-phase project that could be as large as 400 megawatts (MW).

Texas is now the largest wind energy producer in the nation with an installed wind generating capacity at 2,370 MW, which is enough power for 600,000 average-sized homes a year. Currently there are about 1,600 hundred wind farms in West Texas alone, and the numbers continue to increase as development costs continue to drop and wind turbine technology improves. Moreover, Texas has approved two offshore wind farms along the Gulf Coast — another national first. According to a U. S. Department of Energy (DOE) study, the wind-rich states of Texas, North Dakota and Kansas together could generate enough electricity with wind energy to furnish the entire nation’s electricity needs.

Q Do we believe this?

South of Sweetwater, TX December 23, 2006



These wind turbines were installed in about the last 5 years.

Not all blades are rotating. And those that are rotating turn very slowly. A scam?

So how much electric power is produced?
When during the year?
How is electricity being stored?
A huge capacitor?
Big battery?
Compress air?





Bill and Patty's stuff share table top. Patty keeps knocking Bill's train off the tracks!

Essential non-gas-wasting trip to Austin, TX from Albuquerque, NM December 22 - 28, 2006 to see children and grandchildrem.

We saw wind farms at Post and south of Sweetwater, TX and, on the way back, Fort Sumner, NM and took lots of photos.

When quail hunting in New Mexico we occcasionally see wind mills pumping water ... but very infrequently. We see remains of wind mills which have been replaced by electric jack pumps. Several years ago hunting buddy and Bill made essential non-gas-wasting trip to hunt pheasants at Cheyenne Bottoms outside of Bend Kansas. On our trip we saw huge wind turbines.